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#51
General Discussion and Questions / Re: Need help with a query
Last post by cassb - May 06, 2025, 07:32:36 PM
Right, I'm trying to add another field to the Image panel called Sublocation.  I want it to populate whatever XMP tag  holds the sub location, like maybe XMP::iptcExt\LocationShownSubLocation\LocationShownSubLocation.

But when I add that field to the Image panel under Composite\Location, it just mirrors what's in Composite\Location. How do I add and populate a unique field in the panel called SubLocation, different from the Location tag?

I need to read more on how IMatch handles XMP data and how to set up the layouts.  XMP is all new to me.
#52
General Discussion and Questions / Re: Reverse Geocoding - result...
Last post by Mario - May 06, 2025, 07:12:56 PM
IMatch can only display what geonames returns. It does not make up the name.
Change the coordinates slightly and retry.
Consider using Google or HERE.
#53
and if I use the original coordinates and check them up in geonemes.org I get the attached file. No trace of company names... I do not understand how to bring this back to normal.

Any help as to where to start will be appreciated, even if I do not think this is an IMATCH issue. Maybe the API?

Thanks!
#54
If I may bring this back.. I can't seem to get this to work.

Mario, I did try this and I got similar results, company names instead of city.

Here two files on this.
#55
General Discussion and Questions / Re: Need help with a query
Last post by Mario - May 06, 2025, 06:37:35 PM
There is location shown and location created in IPTC XMP. And there can even be multiple location records per image - to make things more complicated.

Some of the location tags are propagated to other metadata standards and tags. For example, XMP::iptcExt\LocationShownCity\LocationShownCity is mirrored into XMP::photoshop\City\City and Composite\MWG-City\City and there are many more.

When you fill out IPTC Location Shown metadata, it is mirrored into the Composite tags used by the 4. Image sample Metadata Panel layout. Just tried, works fine.

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#56
General Discussion and Questions / Re: Need help with a query
Last post by cassb - May 06, 2025, 06:16:49 PM
OK, I thought the same, Mario.  I'll need to add Sublocation to a panel layout.  I'll choose LocationShownSubLocation



But when I add it to 4 IPTC Metadata custom panel "Image", it shows a different name...?

#57
Probably. There are 1000s of ways to shoot yourself in the foot when it comes to metadata.
As I said, I tried to reproduce this already, with no success.
Propagating annotations is something very rarely done, unless you have identical images (e.g. versions directly derived from the master without changing dimensions or crop).

Propagating annotations (face annotations) does not propagate keywords.
This way things can be handled more flexibly, the user can select to propagate only the annotations or also propagate keywords, as needed. One could argue it should be different, but that's how it is implemented for the past couple of years and so far it worked.


As I said, I tried to reproduce this.
If you propagate annotations (which is done in database) and then run a diagnosis, the diagnosis will report "missing" keywords, because the annotations have been copied, but the keywords will only be "there" after writing back. This is expected. The diagnosis will just add the missing keywords.

#58
I am sure that this didn't happen with the database migration.
Migration of the main DB was done before starting with AutoTagger.

RAM upgrade is needed to be able to run IMatch in parallel with Photolab and Radiant Photo, Mylio and maybe a webbrowser.
16GB is not very much today. 32GB should be more than enough.
#59
General Discussion and Questions / Re: Need help with a query
Last post by Mario - May 06, 2025, 05:29:14 PM
I would consider this the location name or sub-location name.
Whatever you consider "more important" should probably go into the location tag, the other in the sub-location tag.
There are no rules or recommendations I'm aware of. Unless you work for clients or agencies, choose whatever fits best for you.

I usually use the sub-location to record more details about a location.
Location is the street name, sub-location may be "Museum of Modern Sausage Art" or something.
#60
General Discussion and Questions / Re: Need help with a query
Last post by cassb - May 06, 2025, 04:48:31 PM
Question:  When populating the location XMP data, I might have this kind of information:

A.E. Seaman Mineral Museum, Michigan Technological University
1400 Townsend Dr.
Houghton, MI

In the 4. IPTC Metadata fields, there is:

Location (1400 Townsend Dr.)
City (Houghton)
State (MI)
Country (USA)


Where would you put the building name "A.E. Seaman Mineral Museum, Michigan Technological University"?