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#1
General Discussion and Questions / Re: AI Questions: Traits, [[-c...
Last post by Jingo - March 06, 2025, 11:55:24 PM
Good to know it is working at least.. I'll try reworking a few of them.. I was using a sample traits from the help file so figured it would at least fill the trait with "No Animals" if I ask:

If there are animals (cats, dogs, horses, fish, birds etc.) visible in this image, respond with the text 'Animals' else respond with the text 'No Animals'.

I'm just getting no traits set up at all.
#2
AutoTagger and AI / Re: AutoTagger Prompt Engineer...
Last post by Stenis - March 06, 2025, 10:29:26 PM
Quote from: Mario on March 06, 2025, 02:30:30 PMI have no opinion, I don't really have a need for such things. Why not give it a try with a couple of dozen photos and see what you get for your photos?

I have had a lot of help using Google Lens earlier when adding metadata to my old pictuteres from all trips I have made since 1971. I was a back-packer for 15 years and have continued travelling since then and in some cases my memory has needed som help from the Internet to recall both places and environments.

In some cases my and others pictures have become historical when earthquakes have destroyed part of towns and villages or wars. Mostly places just changes over time, so "Landmarks" can be very helpful if it works properly. Some of my main intests is architecture and urban development so I will definitely give "Landmarks" a go.
#3
General Discussion and Questions / Re: Auto Tagger batch jobs
Last post by Joe Austin - March 06, 2025, 10:08:14 PM
I don't see anything wrong with that explanation.   My mistake was assuming I knew what the 'Run once' option meant before I read about it.
#4
General Discussion and Questions / Re: AI Questions: Traits, [[-c...
Last post by Mario - March 06, 2025, 08:03:15 PM
Quote from: Jingo on March 06, 2025, 07:33:47 PMStill wondering if traits are working with OpenAI for anyone?
Works for me. Just tried. Both my Headline trait and Lighting trait were successfully filled by OpenAI for 10 different images.
Maybe rework the prompt?
#5
General Discussion and Questions / Re: AI Questions: Traits, [[-c...
Last post by Jingo - March 06, 2025, 07:33:47 PM
For #1 - I just came up with the following variable to restrict non-hierarchical keywords from propagating from the AI keywords to my hierarchical keywords:

{File.MD.AI.keywords|filter:^AI|Animals|Colors|Events|Objects|People|Places|Special Items}

These represent the top levels of my Thesaurus so, if the the AI keyword has mapped correct to the thesaurus, then running this variable in the metadata template only transfers "valid" keywords.  I can then manually map other keywords it finds for subsequent runs to maximize keywords.. neat!

Just thought I would share in case this is helpful to others who only want to transfer thesaurus level keywords to their images.

Thx - Andy.

Still wondering if traits are working with OpenAI for anyone?
#6
General Discussion and Questions / Re: AI Questions: Traits, [[-c...
Last post by Jingo - March 06, 2025, 06:32:33 PM
Quote from: Mario on March 06, 2025, 02:32:06 PMThe extra keywords you don't want can be excluded via the Keyword Mapping feature.

QuoteI checked the log (attached) and do not see ANY OAI-RESPONSE tags
My bad. That's for developers (aka me) only, sorry.
Too bad.. that would be great to see in the log!  I'm still not sure why I cannot get any trait information back.. has anyone else successfully setup traits and received results using OpenAI?  If so, can you share your traits so I can try them out and see if it something on my end?  Thx!
#7
General Discussion and Questions / Re: AI service/model for taggi...
Last post by Mario - March 06, 2025, 06:01:42 PM
Quote from: Jingo on March 06, 2025, 05:58:48 PM
Quote from: Mario on March 06, 2025, 02:33:32 PMDo you see a difference between the Mistral Pixtral 12b and the large Pixtral (more expensive) model?
For me - I didn't notice a big difference but OpenAI is producing some great results "out of the box"!
Very well. No model (yet/ever) does it all equally well. It all depends on which data it was trained on and how.
That's why IMatch is supporting multiple models and I may add more cloud-based AI's in the future, when I see advantages (Google, Antropic, ...)
#8
General Discussion and Questions / Re: AI service/model for taggi...
Last post by Jingo - March 06, 2025, 05:58:48 PM
Quote from: Mario on March 06, 2025, 02:33:32 PMDo you see a difference between the Mistral Pixtral 12b and the large Pixtral (more expensive) model?
For me - I didn't notice a big difference but OpenAI is producing some great results "out of the box"!
#9
Solved Bug Reports (for next version) / Re: Metadata panel copy and pa...
Last post by cg - March 06, 2025, 05:54:03 PM
Thanks, Mario!
#10
General Discussion and Questions / Re: Auto Tagger batch jobs
Last post by Mario - March 06, 2025, 04:57:40 PM
I've explained it in the help as follows:

When you enable this option, AutoTagger sends only the focused file (or the first selected file, when there is no focused file) to the AI and applies the returned description, keywords and traits to all selected files.

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