Some language dicussion?

[Mario]

I suggest to discuss such things in an Off-topic thread.

The topic of this thread is "Anybody else having problems with AutoTsgger?" and the tread got side-tracked badly.
We shot concentrate on the OP's issue.

And yes, OPT

Did you mean OP? I'm not sure what OT is.

Yep. Just a typo.

[sinus]

OK

[Stenis]

Mario you are doing really well with the English as far as i'm concerned, English insn't my native language either :-). The deaper unspoken meanings in the English that are so very obvious and clear for Americans and Brittons are not so for me either but generally tech English is luckily mostly a different thing.

Well, don't feel bad. It is the largest and most complicated language that has ever existed, by far. Frankly, I'm always very impressed when anybody gets proficient with English as a second language, and compliment them whenever I notice it. Very impressive.

I'm sure I (could) learn English if I didn't grow up with it and learn it as a native tongue. But I sure wouldn't want to. Its very confusing indeed.

Edit: Oh, and just to add, there is a difference between British style English and American English. Things are spelled differently, the vernacular is also completely different. Just to add a little more confusion, because apparently it wasn't already confusing enough.

In most countries today kids study at least one foreign language today - mostly English - and in some cases French, German or Spanish and even Chinese. What is a big change today is the influence of the Internet. I studied English and German (German three years) in the nineteen fifties but today my grandchildren and their generation is fantastic with the English when they are 10 due to, they really live in it through their phones and computers. I know a boy well in my extended family that is 12 and already very capable of reading even pretty complicated technical info and developing his own software too. Nobody educated him in that but the Net. My German is really bad since I never really practised it besides talking to some German tourists in the summers.

I see what has happened with my Swedish lately because I more often have to express myself more simple tan say 25 years ago when there were not so many immigrants. Later we were a very homogenous people resulting in a large common understanding which made us much more silent since we didn´t have to speak just to explain things to newcoming immigrants (now 20% of the population). Maybe that explains that most Americans in my eyes talks and talks and talks in a way we usually don´t. USA was built on immigration and that forced the spoken and written language to be adapted and simplified compared to the British English. USA was once built on the egalitarian ideas from the French Revolution but in England there is very much more still a class mark in how you handle the language and express yourself and I guess that was what made me crazy having to read those Geography text written in an English that in my opinion then very much was revolving around the authors desire to show off the results of his higher education. The backside for me was that I really struggled with understanding him. I have never felt that way with the Americans because compared to the well educated Brittons even the well educated Americans have strived to make them selves understood of all their readers. I think that is a very sympatetic stans that also will create a far more effective and including environment than if the language will be an unessessary barrier of old class issues.

[Stenis]

Mario you are doing really well with the English as far as i'm concerned, English insn't my native language either :-). The deaper unspoken meanings in the English that are so very obvious and clear for Americans and Brittons are not so for me either but generally tech English is luckily mostly a different thing.

Well, don't feel bad. It is the largest and most complicated language that has ever existed, by far. Frankly, I'm always very impressed when anybody gets proficient with English as a second language, and compliment them whenever I notice it. Very impressive.

I'm sure I (could) learn English if I didn't grow up with it and learn it as a native tongue. But I sure wouldn't want to. Its very confusing indeed.

Edit: Oh, and just to add, there is a difference between British style English and American English. Things are spelled differently, the vernacular is also completely different. Just to add a little more confusion, because apparently it wasn't already confusing enough.

In most countries today kids study at least one foreign language today - mostly English - and in some cases French, German or Spanish and even Chinese. What is a big change today is the influence of the Internet. I studied English and German (German three years) in the nineteen fifties but today my grandchildren and their generation is fantastic with the English when they are 10 due to, they really live in it through their phones and computers. I know a boy well in my extended family that is 12 and already very capable of reading even pretty complicated technical info and developing his own software too. Nobody educated him in that but the Net. My German is really bad since I never really practised it besides talking to some German tourists in the summers.

I see what has happened with my Swedish lately because I more often have to express myself more simple tan say 25 years ago when there were not so many immigrants. Later we were a very homogenous people resulting in a large common understanding which made us much more silent since we didn´t have to speak just to explain things to newcoming immigrants (now 20% of the population). Maybe that explains that most Americans in my eyes talks and talks and talks in a way we usually don´t. USA was built on immigration and that forced the spoken and written language to be adapted and simplified compared to the British English.

USA was once built on the egalitarian ideas from the French Revolution but in England there is very much more still a class mark in how you handle the language and express yourself and I guess that was what made me crazy having to read those Geography text written in an English that in my opinion then very much was revolving around the authors desire to show off the results of his higher education. The backside for me was that I really struggled with understanding him.

I have never felt that way with the Americans because compared to the well-educated Brittons even the well-educated Americans have strived to make themselves understood of all their readers. I think that is a very sympathetic stans, that also will create a far more effective and including environment than if the language will be an unnecessary barrier of old class issues.

[Stenis]

I don´t consider this problem a show stopper at all. I will continue my work for now and if Mario solves this it is fine and until then I will just continue doing what is needed to get on.

Maybe I have that stance because I´m used to manually updating the queues with iMatch since day one and that is because I´m coming from PhotoMechanic where all batch updates are så much faster to execute than in iMatch. In PM that has never been a problem.

It is fine by me, because considering the whole "picture" iMatch in my eyes still wins with a big margin when it comes to the bottom line when I summarize my productivity. This is mainly due to the effect of how well Autotagger is working together with OpenAI:s larger model GPT-40, when it comes to identifying animal species. After working a lot, the last three days with many of my old, since long neglected safari pictures, that I haven´t had the strength to take on before - mainly because they are so many. I can now see that this is doable in a fraction of the time I have used before, especially when pupulating "Descriptions" and "Keywords". Even the smart metadata forms in iMatch has helped a lot in a very streamlined and effective way.

How much money have I spent?
Well, I started with 10 U$ and I still have close to 7 left (!), despite using the bigger model a lot lately.
I guess the fact that you can make one singe request in Autotagger, to mark any number of similar pictures, is a very cost effective and easy to use function that saves a lot of money.

[Mario]

Maybe I have that stance because I´m used to manually updating the queues with iMatch since day one and that is because I´m coming from PhotoMechanic where all batch updates are så much faster to execute than in iMatch. In PM that has never been a problem.

I don't understand what you are doing.
"Manually updating the queues", what does this even mean? Which queues do you update?

from PhotoMechanic where all batch updates are så much faster to execute than in iMatch.

What do you mean by batch update? You update what in batch and where?
I sincerely doubt that IMatch is slower than PM, unless is does more than you think. PM is really basic when it comes to metadata. As always, include a log file (log file) when you experience something like this, because then we can see what you did and how long it took.Very helpful in diagnosing things.

Unless we understand what you refer to and try to explain, we cannot help you.

I suggest you open a new thread since your replies about language and now about something that works slower in IMatch than in PM has nothing to do with the thread in which you were posting (which is about an AutoTagger problem one user has).

Don't hijack threads, please. Moderators don't like this. We like to keep things to the point, on thread for one topic.

I have moved your comments about language into this parking thread and locked it.

If you want to report an issue or problem, open a new thread. Thanks.
Maybe copy & paste this into a fresh thread:

Maybe I have that stance because I´m used to manually updating the queues with iMatch since day one and that is because I´m coming from PhotoMechanic where all batch updates are så much faster to execute than in iMatch. In PM that has never been a problem.

Don't forget to explain which queues you fill manually and what you consider a batch update and what makes you think that they are slower in IMatch.