Started by Lord_Helmchen, June 12, 2017, 08:12:30 PM
Quote from: Mario on June 14, 2017, 10:43:57 AMA) I write the app in a way that the user can enter his own API key / user account for Google/MS. Similar to the Map Panel.The user then has full control over the process, if he exceeds the 'free' units he gets each month, how he settles payment etc.This is the easiest solution, but may be complicated for the IMatch user.B) I setup and maintain a webservice infrastructure in the cloud to handle this.The IMatch app then utilizes this service, which in turn utilizes the services provided by Google/MS etc.This allows me to keep my API keys secret, control the usage per user and total cost, and it shields the user's IP from Google/MS (all requests come from my server).I can also handle load balancing and API changes more easily.Now, If a user wants to use the app, he needs to pay extra. Say, 5 $ a months for 2000 face detections and auto labeling.My distributor MyCommerce offers subscription payment models which would make that fairly easy. You pay for what you use.If you exceed your monthly allowance, the app will not function anymore until the next month.Technical challenges are manifold and a lot of work would go into that. But it is one big step into SaaS, and that's how things are going anyway.
Quote from: cytochrome on June 20, 2017, 03:50:31 PMThis is very interesting and I would gladly (well...) pay for a face recognition tool linked to IMatch. But I am not sure I get it right: on the Excire site they only talk about Lightroom and the LR catalogue. I don't use LR so the question is: would the Excire technology apply to images stored in the IM catalogue and write to IM categories/keywords?Francis
Quote from: cytochrome on June 20, 2017, 04:26:08 PMWell, if Excire technology -or similar technology from Google or Microsoft- can be integrated into IMatch it would be a BIG step forward for people like me who have tons of images with family, friends, local people etc.
Quote from: cytochrome on June 20, 2017, 04:26:08 PMI would buy this. The simplest business scheme would be the best, pay a fee for the IMatch "plugin" and a license for Excire or the like.Francis
Quote from: Lord_Helmchen on June 21, 2017, 04:19:29 PMThat's really great news - and exactly what I was hoping for. If you need some beta tester, just let me know.
Quote from: Mario on June 24, 2017, 02:28:51 PMThe Excire "Find similar images" function would be integrated as a new IMatch command into the Search menu.
Quote from: Lord_Helmchen on July 17, 2017, 08:50:01 PMMario, do you think it would be helpful to contact them from customer side and tell them, that we're interested and could create some additional revenue on their side?
Quote from: Mario on July 18, 2017, 04:09:23 PMGoogle and MS make this easier. Just register for their services, start working. If you don't exceed a certain number of requests, your using their services for free.Of course the major disadvantage is that the images (or thumbnails thereof) have to be uploaded into the cloud. Not so with Excire, which works locally.Excire has no face recognition, though.It can find images with faces (IMatch does that already) and it can, to some extent, find images by age or smile.So far the only affordable way (meaning, less than 10,000 US$ per year) I have found are the services provided by Google, MS and some other cloud services....
Quote from: lnh on July 18, 2017, 08:58:38 PMIf it can't do facial recognition to the level of suggesting a person in your categories, Excire is of less interest to me. It might still be useful for everything else, but I'd rather pay for a Google or MS cloud service key to get a richer capability to at least get person level recognition. Privacy is always a concern, but no one is requiring connection to the cloud service and every IMatch user could make their own choice.