Author Topic: Troubles with UMLAUTS / even Rosetta cannot solve it ;)  (Read 1456 times)

sinus

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Troubles with UMLAUTS / even Rosetta cannot solve it ;)
« on: November 12, 2014, 08:39:17 AM »
Not directly linked to IMatch, but  ;)

In the attachement you can see a screenshot from a "sophisticated" image including video and animation (Rosetta - Comet).

What finally is unbelievable: there we go and do land Rovers and other stuff on comets and what ever, Humans does live in the universe (ISS) ... and we are still not able to communicate without troubles with Umlauts like ÄÖÜ äöü - from spanish, scandinavian or other countries with even more troubles I dare not to speak.

See the attachement, could not resist to upload this.  ;D

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Re: Troubles with UMLAUTS / even Rosetta cannot solve it ;)
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2014, 08:41:20 AM »
And forgot to mention:

That is why I do not use such Umlauts in file- or foldernames. And for shure I do not deliver such files to friends or clients.

Never - ever (except a client wants it for filenames)!
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Re: Troubles with UMLAUTS / even Rosetta cannot solve it ;)
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2014, 10:42:25 AM »
Non ASCII/ANSI is still a problem because most of the core technologies were designed by U.S. companies, and they don't need any of this fancy umlauts or other things. When you work in projects which incorporates software from various sources (Open Source, Research projects) you often run into problems. Sometimes a module cannot display or process non-ASCII text. Sometimes a module cannot work with non-ASCII file names, not even UTF-8 data. And looking for UNICODDE support (the official standard, and supported by Windows for 20 years) across platforms is futile.

IMatch suffers from that too, but only when communicating with ExifTool. Thanks to the missing support for UNICODE file names in the Perl programming language used for ExifTool, IMatch has to do a lot of clumsy things in order to support file names which cannot be mapped into the ANSI/ASCII or local code page of the user.

The general rule is (all IT guys and most pro's know this by hart): Don't use non ASCII-characters in file names if you want to use your files on all platforms and web sites.

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Re: Troubles with UMLAUTS / even Rosetta cannot solve it ;)
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2014, 02:06:33 PM »
The general rule is (all IT guys and most pro's know this by hart): Don't use non ASCII-characters in file names if you want to use your files on all platforms and web sites.

It is like it is.
But your rule above, all IT-people should print this on the desk, on the fridge, as a sheet in the bed ;)

And all IMatch-user should at least think about it!
I see very often a lot of problems simply because user does use Umlauts.
OF COURSE, for a German, for example, it is akward to write "Maedchen" instead "Mädchen".  (my gps write simply instead ä a and u for ü ...).

But better to live with this, instead having always troubles with not working pages or links and so on.
Best wishes from Switzerland! :-)
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