Started by ben, October 03, 2023, 10:53:24 AM
QuoteFramework laptops are cool. Easily upgradeable for users, spare parts etc.13.5" inch screens may be sufficient for many users. The 16" framework is currently only available on pre-order, shipping next year. Unfortunately, they don't offer touch screens and I need touch for testing stuff.
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Quote from: Mario on November 04, 2023, 08:28:45 PMMeaning what?
Quotehave no concerns about the internal intel gpu Iris Xe, right?
Quote from: Mario on November 04, 2023, 06:30:52 PMUnfortunately, they don't offer touch screens and I need touch for testing stuff.
Quote from: Lord_Helmchen on November 19, 2023, 05:03:26 PMWhy not take an extra portable 15" display that suppor
Quote from: Mario on November 21, 2023, 08:43:57 PMAfter an agonizing process ofa) determining my actual needsb) getting my self up-to-date with what's current in laptop tech (processors, GPUs, SSD, RAM, screens, Wi-Fi, ...)c) scanning all major players (Dell, Lenovo, Microsoft, HP) web sites for Black Friday rebatesd) watching many reviews on YouTube (tip: ignore reviews without hard-core benchmarks and measurements and reviews which start with unboxing )...x) learning that Intel has just released their Meteor Lake processor line for next year I've finally settled on a 'mid-range' notebook for a reasonable price just now.It has a 10 core Intel processor gen 13, 32 GB RAM (user-extendable to 64 GB), 1 TB SSD (user swappable), 16" 2560 pixel screen (no touch), a very good keyboard (very important to me), Wi-Fi 6E, Bluetooth, an aluminum chassis and a dedicated NVIDIA 4060 graphics card with 8 GB RAM!It was less than 1,400€ after Black Friday rebate and (interestingly) it will replace it's predecessor from the same company, which is several generations older and worked fine for many years along two generations of workstation-grade PCs under my desk.I've looked at the current premium offers of Dell, Lenovo, Microsoft Surface, HP. All provide nice rebates during Black Week.Super-fast, OLD 4K screens, touch.And there is also always something that does not fit. Only 16 RAM. Only 3200 RAM speed. Only Wi-Fi 6, no E. Only 720 pixel web cam. 1 TB SSD, soldered. RAM soldered. Slow charging.I did not find a "perfect" fit, unless I'm prepared to spend really a lot of money. I've finally decided not to spend 3K € on a premium notebook now, when the new 2024 generation of all major vendors will use the new Intel chips which are much faster and more efficient. I will look again at what's available for Black Week 2024, if my current choice of laptop does not work as well as I think it will.Quote from: Lord_Helmchen on November 19, 2023, 05:03:26 PMWhy not take an extra portable 15" display that supporThat's a very good idea indeed. I can simulate pen input easily enough with my graphics tablet. But for simulating touch and multi-touch, I can spend a few hundred bucks on such an external display. There is place for a 3rd monitor on my desk and I need this monitor only for testing, so I can pick a cheap one.
Quote from: jch2103 on November 22, 2023, 07:36:10 PMMy incomplete understanding is that the Inspiron models offer the benefit of being able to replace some parts (...)
Quote from: jch2103 on November 22, 2023, 07:36:10 PMMy incomplete understanding is that the Inspiron models offer the benefit of being able to replace some parts (esp battery, memory, storage). It's frustrating not to be able do simple things like replace a failing battery in most laptops (and seems to be more difficult as the price increases). Part of that's a size tradeoff, but how much of a factor that is depends on your use case, especially if it involves travel.