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Title: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Buster on October 23, 2013, 05:16:17 PM
Everything was ok - database with 200000 files created and fine.
Then I noticed that some of my keywords had a special effect in IM5's @keywords. I toook and take over years pics from children in severals KiTa belonging to our St. Josefshaus (St. Matthias, St. Joseph, St. Laurentius, ....).
And now I noticed that this . is | in IM5. So I changed this with the result, that 31500 metadata had to be written. :(
Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Mario on October 23, 2013, 05:19:31 PM
I'm not sure what you mean.

Do you have keywords containing . in your files and IMatch splits them on import?
Make sure you have set the correct separator for your keywords set under Edit > Preferences > Metadata.
Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Buster on October 23, 2013, 05:53:50 PM
Not as separator. The keyword is St. Josefshaus. So some files have keywords like St. Matthias, St. Laurentius, Kindergarten, Kinderzirkus for instance. In im5 ; is the separator.
Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Mario on October 23, 2013, 07:03:20 PM
It must be me...I still don't get it...    (https://www.photools.com/community/Smileys/photools/ashamed05.gif)

Keywords with . are fully OK.
If you enter multiple keywords or categories, you use the default "list separator character" for your country/locale, which is usually ; but may be a different character in other countries and Windows locales.

IMatch 5 uses | as the hierarchy separator because this is the suggested character my the MWG and also used by Adobe applications.

Do you have problems entering, saving or importing keywords containing dots ?
Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Buster on October 23, 2013, 09:46:26 PM
:) Every dot in a keyword is interpreted as separator.
in my @keywords there is:
St
and as sub:
matthias
joseph
...
The keywords are St. Matthias, St. Joseph

You see:
2
and as sub
bundesliga
...
The keyword is 2. Bundesliga

Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Mario on October 24, 2013, 08:23:02 AM
Where do you see that?
Keyword Panel? Categories?
Where do these keywords come from? Are they imported from your files? If yes, check under Edit > Preferences > Metadata that you have not selected . as a hierarchy separator. Because if you do that, IMatch splits location.germany into

location
|- germany
Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Buster on October 24, 2013, 10:31:37 AM
GERMAN: Habe das Häkchen hinter dem Punkt nicht gesehen.  Das war es natürlich.  Aber jetzt werden mir wieder Stunden angezeigt, bis alles fertig ist. 
Na ja - ohne Geduld geht es halt nicht.  :-)
Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Mario on October 24, 2013, 10:59:58 AM
QuoteAber jetzt werden mir wieder Stunden angezeigt, bis alles fertig ist.
Na ja - ohne Geduld geht es halt nicht.  :-)

Ich nehme an, Du importierst alle Dateien neue? Mittels <STRG><UMSCHALTEN>+<F5> und dann Reload Metadata?
Dass sollte aber nicht so lange dauern, wenn es nicht gerade 100,000 oder so Dateien sind...
Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Buster on October 24, 2013, 11:16:02 AM
:) Das Ganze auf Deutsch loszuwerden, macht schon Spaß. Ich habe zwar fast 40 Jahre Englisch unterrichtet, allerdings an einer Haupt-/Gesamtschule, und da verlernst Du die Sprache. :)
Zum Thema:
Ich habe gestern ca. 200 neue Fotos vom Handball gemacht, vorher auf 1.22 aktualisiert und danach das Verzeichnis mit den neuen Bildern einlesen wollen - da wurden mir schon ein paar Stunden angezeigt.
Heute morgen habe ich das Häkchen neben dem Punkt als Hierarchie-Trenner entfernt - Resultat jetzt: 2 Stunden und 30 Minuten zum Einlesen der Metadaten. Allerdings werden mir auch knapp 4000 Einträge in der Warteschlange gezeigt.
Ich werde abwarten und hinterher die Logdatei schicken. Zum Glück hängt sich nichts auf - das sichert ein verwendungsfähiges Ergebnis.
Irgendwie werde ich das Gefühl nicht los, dass das Umswitchen auf den Highspeed-Stick doch nicht die beste Wahl war. :)
Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Mario on October 24, 2013, 11:26:04 AM
200 Fotos (ohne Cache-Generierung) zu verarbeiten dauerst ca. 1 minute. Oder 2, wenn der WIC codec sehr langsam ist.

Eines meiner shootings generiert so 400 - 800 Bilder. Die ließt IMatch 5 in ca. 10 Minuten komplett ein, bei einer Datenbank von ca. 54,000 Bildern.

Ich bin mal auf Deine log files gespannt. Da ist irgendwas Übles im Busch.

Virenchecker???

Title: And now? Nothing happens.
Post by: Buster on October 24, 2013, 04:44:16 PM
I do not know what to do now.
Something in the background is working, but I cannot really realize, what.
Metadata reading for 200 files - 2 hours????
Three pics with yellow pencil - klick -> two minutes, but nothing really happens.



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Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Gerd on October 24, 2013, 04:52:03 PM
Hi,

I found some time-consuming processes in the log-file, may be Mario can explain this, may be this is one of the time-eaters ???

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Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Buster on October 24, 2013, 06:27:15 PM
?? Why does nothing happen concerning the queue?


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Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Mario on October 24, 2013, 06:38:59 PM
The file system is not time consuming. There is a very long time recorded for the Media & Folder tree configuration dialog? Did you open that dialog box?
It looks like the background processing queue was paused by something and did not continue...when you close/re-open the database, does IMatch continue processing?
Title: Re: IM5 - sometimes surprising
Post by: Buster on October 24, 2013, 10:52:14 PM
Sorry for posting it twice - yes, IM5 continued working after being started again.